"It's never been easy."
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adelineLost; 2x03: Orientation
- First off, was it the good folks who rip the episode for us each week that edited out the LOST splash screen in this episode, or did we just never get one? Because if it's the latter, how the frick does ABC forget to include that? Also, why does nobody seem to notice? Overall I thought the ep was pretty poorly edited, there were some strange cuts here and there. My guess is they filmed way much more than could fit in 42 minutes and had to leave out a lot of stuff. For shame, but I still all-around really liked the episode.
- Now about that prominent 'faith' issue
x. Locke - I believe he always was the trustful kind, then all that shit with his parents happened and almost completely broke his faith. Note the anger management classes took place at a church, though. (There's a wide shot in the beginning of that scene where we can see windows, and they're definitely the church-type kind.) Helen gave it back to him with the whole key thing. Then he lost it again, (I know, make up yer mind already! :p) maybe when he had his paralyzing accident (in which this Helen may or may not have died). Gaining back the ability to walk and fulfill his dream of adventure after the crash might have sufficed to give it all back to him.
x. Jack - as seen in Man of Science, Man of Faith, Jack wasn't at all into the power of hope to begin with. He always believed in fact over spirit or willpower. Then his future-wife-but-they-don't-know-it-yet had a paralyzing accident too, and Jack's top surgeon skills weren't enough to fix her. He'd like to believe anything else, but it's clear to him, he "failed her" and it can't possibly be any other way. Jack's frustrated at himself. Then he meets Desmond, who challenges him on his faith. "You don't believe in miracles?" And indeed a miracle happens, as it turns out Sarah CAN walk. This must've had some effect on Jack, some kinda "hope is alive" epiphany or whatever. Then love happens and even though Jack questions his emotions, he marries Sarah. From that point on, you'd think his bedside manner would improve, but we know it went all sucky again after that - something must've happened to Sarah to take all of his faith away. It seems in this episode like Jack was afraid of faith, that he didn't want anything to do with it. It's probably related to the fact that Desmond was the one who gave him faith in the first place, or perhaps more accurately, Desmond and Sarah. I believe Jack "failed" Sarah again at a later point which we have yet to learn about, and that he's never had faith in anything ever since. Now he sees Desmond again and it brings back all of this stuff that's he's been denying for quite some time, stuff that has deep enough an impact on him to turn him round back to the hatch and make him give Locke et al the right code.
(Heh, can you tell I love Jack? I am so looking forward to his next flashback eppy now!)
x. Locke placing so much faith in Jack eventually pushing the button was a beautiful touch. From where he stands, the stakes were high, and still he trusted a dubious Jack to save the day. I loved that.
- teh button
x. The whole Saving The World so-called purpose? A load of crap if you ask me. I'm with the crowd that says it's all a fucked-up psych experiment.
x. That execute key on the keyboard - no WAY it can get so glossy and so rugged in a matter of milliseconds as the images would have us believe. No way either two such different keys might be located on the SAME freaking keyboard. The editing and writing staff is screwing with us big time there. I'll post screencaps to back this up. My own pet theory? We saw Calvin at the beginning of MoSMoF, and we saw Desmond's finger pressing the button for the first time at the end of Orientation.
ETA the caps:
x. Our gang is waiting for somebody to push the button
x. "Jack" presses the button
- the rest:
x. I. love. Desmond. Poor thing him... But oh, "Calvin died"? The hell? How did NOBODY ask how "Calvin died"? That was weird. Inquiring minds want to know, COME BACK DESMOND!
x. Not enough (ex-?)main cast featured. :( It's the third episode already and where is Sun? Charlie? Shannon, Claire, Sayid? Okay so we saw Sayid and Hurley this week, right. BARELY! I miss the originals :(
x. Some lines didn't make much sense, especially at the end. "Why do you find it so hard to believe?" "Why do YOU find it so easy?!" That was great. Loved the dichotomy. But then Locke goes "Oh it's never been easy!" and I'm all, HUH? Isn't that acknowledging how hard it is to believe? And this was scripted by writers? Damn. The first time I thought it was great line, ya know, Locke admitting it takes a lot for a man to put faith in the unproven, but yeah, it makes no sense in context. He's basically saying "Oh I know it's hard, believe me" so why should he ask what's making Jack so afraid if he knows first-hand (as showcased by his flashbacks)?
x. Some other lines were GREAT though. Desmond's "The end!" mwahaha, loved. it. And also from him "Every, single, day" was so powerful. When Locke was repositioning the orientation film to watch a second time, I cheered at Jack's "You're gonna watch that again?" because, okay, WE crazy obsessive fans are obviously gonna watch it again, but we seriously don't need it twice in the same episode. Oh and Hurley! His "oh, crap!" when Kate came running to find Sayid was totally priceless.
x. So many explainations were given in this episode, through that Dharma Indus film! Did anyone else feel like it was a little too much? It was PACKED with polar bears, magnetic fields and lots of other stuff we've been theorizing for a while. Overkill, anyone? Eh, maybe it's just me. And the polar bear thing is such a letdown, if that's all there is to it.
x. Also, Alvar Hanso? So very much an anagram. Somebody put their thinking cap on and figure it out, I suck at these things. But these kind of names never come out of the blue.
x. Food for thought: Rousseau mentioned crashing onto the island with her group of research lst season, right? And research is what the Dharma Initiative is all about. Hmm...
x. Sayid is the coolest. "This argument is pointless. ::rolls eyes::" You gotta love a wise man. He kinda gave the same attitude to Locke and Jack as they were debating the opening of the hatch last season, except it was all in the eyes. I noticed and I loved. It was like, "Jeez, how's that for sensible Americans?"
x. Terry O'Quinn rocks so much. He definitely was ROBBED at the Emmys! I can't get over that. William friggin' Shatner can't be this good, there just is no damn way. And Matthew Fox? If he doesn't get a nom this season, I'll never ever ever give any credibility to that pompous committee EVER again. Just LOOK at the man's work. Whoa.
x. Is![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
die_ana_die up and running yet? Because I very much need to join. Like right now. Whattabeeyotch.
x. Rose is back next week! Yay!!
x. OMGWTF Jin speaks fluent English? JIN SPEAKS ENGLISH?????!!!! Whoa. So did not see that one coming. Maybe it's a nightmare of Ana-Lucia or Rose's husband Bernard or whoever else was in the tail section and thinks our raftees are The Others, because he definitely was inside a room (you could see a light spot behind him). Or some expirated food from the hatch is giving someone hallucinations or whatever. It confuzzles me.
That's all. I'm very, very much looking forward to next week's episode, but I can't help notice... the vibe is so much different now than it was last season. Things have definitely taken a serious, no-going-back turn. I don't know what to expect from it, but so far I think this episode is my favorite from the new season, so I guess it's not all bad. But I hope to god the writers know EXACTLY where they're going with this, because if they don't and it all goes X-Files on us, I'm gonna be pissed off!
- First off, was it the good folks who rip the episode for us each week that edited out the LOST splash screen in this episode, or did we just never get one? Because if it's the latter, how the frick does ABC forget to include that? Also, why does nobody seem to notice? Overall I thought the ep was pretty poorly edited, there were some strange cuts here and there. My guess is they filmed way much more than could fit in 42 minutes and had to leave out a lot of stuff. For shame, but I still all-around really liked the episode.
- Now about that prominent 'faith' issue
x. Locke - I believe he always was the trustful kind, then all that shit with his parents happened and almost completely broke his faith. Note the anger management classes took place at a church, though. (There's a wide shot in the beginning of that scene where we can see windows, and they're definitely the church-type kind.) Helen gave it back to him with the whole key thing. Then he lost it again, (I know, make up yer mind already! :p) maybe when he had his paralyzing accident (in which this Helen may or may not have died). Gaining back the ability to walk and fulfill his dream of adventure after the crash might have sufficed to give it all back to him.
x. Jack - as seen in Man of Science, Man of Faith, Jack wasn't at all into the power of hope to begin with. He always believed in fact over spirit or willpower. Then his future-wife-but-they-don't-know-it-yet had a paralyzing accident too, and Jack's top surgeon skills weren't enough to fix her. He'd like to believe anything else, but it's clear to him, he "failed her" and it can't possibly be any other way. Jack's frustrated at himself. Then he meets Desmond, who challenges him on his faith. "You don't believe in miracles?" And indeed a miracle happens, as it turns out Sarah CAN walk. This must've had some effect on Jack, some kinda "hope is alive" epiphany or whatever. Then love happens and even though Jack questions his emotions, he marries Sarah. From that point on, you'd think his bedside manner would improve, but we know it went all sucky again after that - something must've happened to Sarah to take all of his faith away. It seems in this episode like Jack was afraid of faith, that he didn't want anything to do with it. It's probably related to the fact that Desmond was the one who gave him faith in the first place, or perhaps more accurately, Desmond and Sarah. I believe Jack "failed" Sarah again at a later point which we have yet to learn about, and that he's never had faith in anything ever since. Now he sees Desmond again and it brings back all of this stuff that's he's been denying for quite some time, stuff that has deep enough an impact on him to turn him round back to the hatch and make him give Locke et al the right code.
(Heh, can you tell I love Jack? I am so looking forward to his next flashback eppy now!)
x. Locke placing so much faith in Jack eventually pushing the button was a beautiful touch. From where he stands, the stakes were high, and still he trusted a dubious Jack to save the day. I loved that.
- teh button
x. The whole Saving The World so-called purpose? A load of crap if you ask me. I'm with the crowd that says it's all a fucked-up psych experiment.
x. That execute key on the keyboard - no WAY it can get so glossy and so rugged in a matter of milliseconds as the images would have us believe. No way either two such different keys might be located on the SAME freaking keyboard. The editing and writing staff is screwing with us big time there. I'll post screencaps to back this up. My own pet theory? We saw Calvin at the beginning of MoSMoF, and we saw Desmond's finger pressing the button for the first time at the end of Orientation.
ETA the caps:
x. Our gang is waiting for somebody to push the button
x. "Jack" presses the button
- the rest:
x. I. love. Desmond. Poor thing him... But oh, "Calvin died"? The hell? How did NOBODY ask how "Calvin died"? That was weird. Inquiring minds want to know, COME BACK DESMOND!
x. Not enough (ex-?)main cast featured. :( It's the third episode already and where is Sun? Charlie? Shannon, Claire, Sayid? Okay so we saw Sayid and Hurley this week, right. BARELY! I miss the originals :(
x. Some lines didn't make much sense, especially at the end. "Why do you find it so hard to believe?" "Why do YOU find it so easy?!" That was great. Loved the dichotomy. But then Locke goes "Oh it's never been easy!" and I'm all, HUH? Isn't that acknowledging how hard it is to believe? And this was scripted by writers? Damn. The first time I thought it was great line, ya know, Locke admitting it takes a lot for a man to put faith in the unproven, but yeah, it makes no sense in context. He's basically saying "Oh I know it's hard, believe me" so why should he ask what's making Jack so afraid if he knows first-hand (as showcased by his flashbacks)?
x. Some other lines were GREAT though. Desmond's "The end!" mwahaha, loved. it. And also from him "Every, single, day" was so powerful. When Locke was repositioning the orientation film to watch a second time, I cheered at Jack's "You're gonna watch that again?" because, okay, WE crazy obsessive fans are obviously gonna watch it again, but we seriously don't need it twice in the same episode. Oh and Hurley! His "oh, crap!" when Kate came running to find Sayid was totally priceless.
x. So many explainations were given in this episode, through that Dharma Indus film! Did anyone else feel like it was a little too much? It was PACKED with polar bears, magnetic fields and lots of other stuff we've been theorizing for a while. Overkill, anyone? Eh, maybe it's just me. And the polar bear thing is such a letdown, if that's all there is to it.
x. Also, Alvar Hanso? So very much an anagram. Somebody put their thinking cap on and figure it out, I suck at these things. But these kind of names never come out of the blue.
x. Food for thought: Rousseau mentioned crashing onto the island with her group of research lst season, right? And research is what the Dharma Initiative is all about. Hmm...
x. Sayid is the coolest. "This argument is pointless. ::rolls eyes::" You gotta love a wise man. He kinda gave the same attitude to Locke and Jack as they were debating the opening of the hatch last season, except it was all in the eyes. I noticed and I loved. It was like, "Jeez, how's that for sensible Americans?"
x. Terry O'Quinn rocks so much. He definitely was ROBBED at the Emmys! I can't get over that. William friggin' Shatner can't be this good, there just is no damn way. And Matthew Fox? If he doesn't get a nom this season, I'll never ever ever give any credibility to that pompous committee EVER again. Just LOOK at the man's work. Whoa.
x. Is
die_ana_die up and running yet? Because I very much need to join. Like right now. Whattabeeyotch.x. Rose is back next week! Yay!!
x. OMGWTF Jin speaks fluent English? JIN SPEAKS ENGLISH?????!!!! Whoa. So did not see that one coming. Maybe it's a nightmare of Ana-Lucia or Rose's husband Bernard or whoever else was in the tail section and thinks our raftees are The Others, because he definitely was inside a room (you could see a light spot behind him). Or some expirated food from the hatch is giving someone hallucinations or whatever. It confuzzles me.
That's all. I'm very, very much looking forward to next week's episode, but I can't help notice... the vibe is so much different now than it was last season. Things have definitely taken a serious, no-going-back turn. I don't know what to expect from it, but so far I think this episode is my favorite from the new season, so I guess it's not all bad. But I hope to god the writers know EXACTLY where they're going with this, because if they don't and it all goes X-Files on us, I'm gonna be pissed off!
